US forces have seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, in a major escalation of Donald Trump’s four-month pressure campaign against the South American country’s dictator, Nicolás Maduro.

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    So who had written “blatent piracy” on his trump bingo card at the beginning of the year? He took almost to the very end to also make you cross out this, but he did.

    So, “nuclear test und an uninhibited island” next?

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      Boarding ships & enforcing sanctions is not necessarily a bad thing, albeit im missing details on this specific case.

      France & Finland have both done this to shadow fleet tankers in recent time as well.

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    Welcome to the sixteenth century! When Queen Elizabeth couldn’t afford to go to war against Spain so created ‘letters of marque’ which legalised piracy against Spain and its empire. Single handedly created the pirate economy.

    Then, welcome to the eighteenth century, when america created the fiction of the Barbary Corsairs to legalise american piracy of the atlantic trade.

    Isnt it Mark Twain who states that history rhymes?

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      Organize against what, exactly?

      The way I see it, it’s two assholes fighting. Both suck and are responsible of crisis and death of their own country people. Let them fight, then. Though I know Venezuela doesn’t stand a chance, unfortunately.

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        Ah yes you are displaying the kind of intelligence the US military favours in its recruits. Non at all.

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          I won’t say my grammar is perfect, but I do try not to misspell things and insult other people’s intelligence at the same time.

      • DylanMc6 [any, any]@lemmy.ml
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        would there a marxist revolution against both maduro and trump in venezuela? NOT repeating any US state department talking points (looking at you, hexbear!), just asking. seriously!

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    Well at least we know the real reason for the murders now. Why it it always the most greedy, predictable cause?

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      Dude has been saying for 20 years that we should’ve stolen Iraq’s oil. Yet somehow everyone acts surprised when he does pretty predictable things like this.

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      If you want the orange child rapist to bomb something then first you need to put an innocent fisherman on it.

      It doesn’t matter what it is. It could be a fishing boat, a lawn chair, or a baby’s bed. As long as there’s an innocent fisherman nearby he’ll bomb the fuck out of it. Then declare it as very legal and very tremendous.

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    Starting a nonsense war under the guise of “spreading democracy” just to take their oil reserves so that rednecks back home can pollute the air and warm the earth with their oversized trucks. Can it get any more American this?

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      No. Fuck that. Let’s put it this way: American people should fight against this illegal war, regardless of whether they support Trump or not. They’re 10X the size of the Venezuelan population.

      Now tell me. Is that fair now?

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      Their far right, including the woman won a Nobel peace prize, are explicitly pro the U.S. attacking Venezuela to overthrow Maduro.

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        if venezuela’s an aes country (think vietnam combined with nepal (which is NOT an aes country, but has socialist political parties), they would’ve fought back (and they should). seriously!

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    Huh, I wonder why they seized it instead of shooting it like the others? It couldn’t possibly be for the oil, right?

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        I genuinelly believe at least some people in positions of power inside and around the MAGA-Fascist party have plans to make Slavery legal again.

        (I would certainly bet that Peter Tiel is one of those).

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        You’re not getting paid top dollar for your people? You should see my people guy, he do you a good deal.

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        Never heard of human trafficking?

        Oil is just a lot more profitable and easier to work with.

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          Trump has plenty of experience as a human trafficker, but those were underage models in his little fake modeling agency, Trump Model Management, which was a friendly competitor to Epstein’s MC2 Model Management.

          But I can understand him not wanting to draw on that experience here. That and Hegaeth is a murderous fuck, and he was the one awake enough to give the order.

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      I mean, I know what your point is, but can we actually just be thankful that they did not in fact blow up an oil tanker and spill all that into the sea?

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        And, uh, kill all of the innocent people on board. Sorry, I just feel like that should be said.

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        The deep water horizon did not show America too concerned about oil in the Gulf. I’m not sure they care where it goes if they can’t have it.

        What, have they escalated to blockading Cuba now?

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        No. I will not thank them for seizing the ship. That’s a ludicrous suggestion.

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            It’s equivalent to what they said. If someone comes over and punches you in the head should I be thankful they didn’t stab you?

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              You can, in fact, be thankful that you weren’t stabbed while also being upset that you were punched. Adults can have more than one emotion at a time. Never heard of a “silver lining”? It’s an idiom for a reason.

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                Who am I being thankful toward? Who am I giving thanks to in this specific case?

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              It’s equivalent to what they said.

              It’s not.

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        For sure. They shouldn’t have blown up the other boats either, but spilling the oil into the sea would certainly have been bad.

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      I can think of a few reasons why the US Navy wouldn’t want to fire high explosives into a contain full of flammable materials, depending on the range of their artillery.

      Also definitely possible they’re just doing Privateer shit with Navy assets. I do wonder whether the vessel gets impounded or just escorted to a friendly port in El Salvador or Honduras and quietly re-flagged and titled.