Not sure why you’re downvoted. It’s not like the west is doing well at following the promises and projections it planned in Paris to reduce its addiction to fossil fuels. Promises of something being done in the future are only useful or relevant when they actually occur. They are meaningless until then.

Something something let the invisible hand of the market decide.

The West really likes capitalism until they start losing at their own game. Truth is. They’ve always enjoyed stacking the deck of free trade in their own favor. “But China is subsidizing it’s industry and cheating!”. Uh, ok. So why can’t the west just do that? Oh, because we literally have been subsidizing industries all over the place for forever. The west has just not ever had to actually compete with a trade power of equal power.

They liked living in a monopolar world of western control. Too bad. Sucks to suck. Losing at trade in the neoliberal economic world order that they setup to benefit themselves. Getting absolutely outplayed and now taking their ball home.

None of this has to do with “moral actions” or stopping Russia. They literally buy Russian gas like it’s an addiction. This is literally all about the fact that the west is losing out to China’s trade dominance throughout the world.

Well, explain in what what way my analogy was bull shit then. Because it’s not perfect, but creating a hypothetical analogy based around America is sometimes the only way to get Westerners to understand something.

But, you, trying to equate the real bay of pigs invasion to an invasion of Taiwan that was dumb. It just showed you don’t know the history of the Chinese civil war (the entire point of my analogy in the first place) or the history of Cuba.

But, go ahead. I’m waiting for you to explain why my hypothetical analogy is bull shit. I explained why yours was.

And you still haven’t answered why you want the US involved with defending Taiwan. That really worked out well for Ukraine. Fighting for years so we could sell them weapons, get their men killed, and then abandon them once we found a new war to start.

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So a country halfway across the world supporting your “freedom” because they benefit from the manufacturing the country outputs is freedom. But a country that is your neighbor, like China, that has literally never invaded you and has normalized relations with you is “a threat”. The Allie is a country that literally just abandoned an allie in Ukraine when it became unprofitable to support them.

How many times does the US need to abandon an allie like this for people to understand that being an Allie of the US is not beneficial to the “freedom” of that state.

Russia invading Ukraine is unjustifiable. IF China invaded Taiwan it would also be unjustifiable. But, do you really think the US policy of “fighting to the last Ukrainian” and then abandoning them was good for Ukraine?

There is no benefit that comes from being an Allie of the US. If Taiwan wants to remain out of conflicts it’s best option is to distance itself from the US. The benefits only exist until the US decides it’s no longer as profitable to their weapons manufacturers. Then shift their focus to somewhere else (Venezuela for example).

Your analogy is completely off. Cuba wasn’t ever historically a part of the US. Did not participate in a civil war within the US.

I think you need to read up on your history before you try to make a “better analogy”. I used the American civil war as an example because Americans seem to be completely ignorant to the fact that Taiwan exists as separate from mainland China because of a civil war.

Cuba literally liberated itself from a US supported dictatorship. The US did invade Cuba during the bay of pigs though. China has literally never even attacked Taiwan though. So, it’s really not at all compareable. Taiwan exist today as separate from China because the losing side of a civil war retreated there.

China in the 1950s absolutely would have every right to invade Taiwan and overthrow the western supported dictatorship that existed there. It would literally be liberating it’s own people.

The issue is that they didn’t; the people there were forced for decades to live under a puppet dictatorship of the west due to US support.

But, again, we are in this situation in the first place because of US global interests. For some reason no one can answer why the best solution is not for the US to stop trying to control and maintain influence over countries half way across the world?

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“The Florida Keys were never under control of the United States”

That what you just said if we’re keeping the analogy true.

Then you essentially justified the arming and support of a slave owning state by “a foreign nation” if that slave owning state was being threatened. Which (clarifying the analogy) is the US supporting the very much fascist state of Taiwan in its inception and it’s authoritarian rule for over three decades.

And, again, literally zero responses on why the US needs to be involved in every single conflict across the world.

Like, I have the obvious answer to this. But, my comment was meant to make you actually think. Instead, you somehow justified defending a slave state in the analogy.

It’s just so odd to me. Like, the historical parallel here would be if during the US civil War the Confederate army retreated to the Florida Keys and the Union was never able to conquer them due to other international conflicts.

So for 30 years the Confederates rule there with slavery and a dictatorship over the people. All the while they keep calling themselves “The real America”

The “Keys” see progress eventually following a less hostile relationship with the Union and have their dictatorship replaced by a more liberal form. A normalizing could occur and diplomatic relations between the Keys and the rest of America could occur peacefully and under the wishes of the existing people of the Keys.

BUT, for some reason some other country on the other side of the world has been establishing military alliances and bases near the Keys. They are “allies” with the Keys but on paper acknowledge the Union as the “real America”.

Say what you want about China today. But, what the fuck is America even doing here? They don’t reduce tensions with Taiwan or “protect it”. They don’t care about democracy. They literally supported its fascist leaders for decades. America’s hostile invasion of Korea to support fascist over communist is the entire reason that Taiwan was never captured by mainland China during their civil war. They did not want to risk conflict with the Western state that was doing everything to install loyal dictators in Korea and their neighbors.

China can have bad intentions and not give the people of Taiwan their now rightful self determination. I’m not saying that isn’t true. But, holy shit, Americans just eat up the “we have to be a part of ever conflict ever”. Like, can we just let that play out? We’re clearly not interested in Taiwan because we care about “freedom”. Did we learn nothing from the middle east?

That is not why the US cares about it. The US will abandon them (or bomb them) if it’s beneficial to US oligarchs to do so. Can we get some healthcare and stop worrying about what China does in its own backyard?

To be an enemy of the US is dangerous. To be an ally of the US is fatal.

This makes me sad Grandma probably use to sew on non plastic absolute beast of an antique Singer sewing machine. Now she’s got some crappy plastic one she probably hates ontop of the old table.

This table is actually an old sewing machine table that seems to be missing its extention (and drawers). The extension folds at the side when not in use and basically doubles the tables size when extended. Great table if you can install the extension.

Source: my mom inherited one of these tables from my great grandma. Absolutely gorgeous craftsman ship and functionality worth restoring and installing the original model of sewing machine. Nothing like them today.

Damn. Here antique sewing machine must have stopped working. For those that don’t know this is a new garbage quality (by comparison) sewing machine sitting on top the table for the old one.

The old one is probably still in it. It flips underneath for storage when not in use. Most tables have an extension that folds down at the side as well. Gives you the ability to have large blankets or quilts laid flat. Though it looks like they removed it.

I’m sure Grandma misses her old setup. The quality of the old machines were absolutely beyond most anything a consumer sewing machine could do today. All metal and no garbage plastic parts that break. Not to mention the massive foot pedal at the bottom. Never having to look down to see where that stupid plastic one slipped to.

Grandma is making due with what she has. If she still sews a lot I’m sure she’d love having her old machine fixed or replaced.

4/10 for the setup. But not much of a step up from me pulling out my sewing machine from the closet and putting it on the Kitchen table. Actually looks like the same Brother model i have. It’s one of the better brands these days. Singer consumer grade is mostly garbage.

Setup has huge potential though. Repair the older sewing machine and it’s 9/10 without any other changes. Then, add the extention, find the missing drawers for easy access to accessories and thread, and cleanup the cable management, it’s an easy 10/10 setup. 10/10 to Grandma already though for working with what she’s got.

A lot of the difference between this administration and previous ones is how much they don’t care about hiding their crimes. It’s gotta be surreal for Chelsea Manning to see the president post the same type of video bombing civilians that she went to federal prison for leaking.

We have been treating non American lives as subhuman for a long time.

Another valid use is using them to cross at a crosswalk. Much more effective than those stupid orange flags.