It doesn’t help the working class if a different group like the Vanguard seize them instead.

Then do some thinking. You’re clearly not processing what’s being said. A whole bunch of different people with different beliefs that believed in No Kings all literally sat on the Left side of the room. A whole bunch of people who believed in kings and tradition sat on the Right side of the room. Literally. Physically sat there on different sides of the room. How complicated is that?

If the Vanguard seize the means of production, then the Working class still need to seize the means of production or we’re still at square one.

This looks like something a centrists dreamed up. Or someone who had their view of the Left warped and poisoned by Bolsheviks

“The short-fingered vulgarian”

“The short-fingered vulgarian”

This is just for Stalin and what I could quickly pull off the internet

in Moscow area:

Kuntsevo Dacha (“Near Dacha”) Uspenskoye Dacha (Far Dacha, old) Semyonovskoye Dacha (Far Dacha, new) Zubalovo dacha, the first one; not preserved[1] Lipki dacha; not preserved[1] Elsewhere in Russia:

Sochi dacha (Matsesta dacha) Bolshiye Brody dacha, Valday, Novgorod Oblast[1]

There were 5 Stalin’s dachas in Abkhazia[2]

New Athos dacha Kholodnaya Rechka dacha Lake Ritsa dacha Sukhumi dacha, amid the Sukhumi arboretum (now part of the Sukhumi botanical garden) Miusera dacha

Over time, Russians came to see “Nazi” as anyone who opposes them.

A country getting bombed into Rubble doesn’t justify it becoming a hereditary monarchy no matter how much whataboutism you toss around. Nor do the sins of other countries absolve the sins of the Kim family towards their own country.

Far right stuff like the defeat of Nazism

More like collaborated with the Nazis and then defended themselves when Germany invaded. But to be more blunt, tons of Right Wing people, nations, and leaders contributed to the defeat of Nazism. Political ideology played little role for most compared to National affiliation. Numerous right wing partisan groups fought the Nazis AND leftists.

Far right stuff like universal right to housing and to work

Serfs always had a right to housing and work and no one would argue that serfdom is Left Wing.

Far right stuff like supporting anti-imperialist liberation movements

Far right stuff like being an Empire

But lets dispense with the tit for tat. The Bolsheviks were far right because they believe that power should rest in the hands of the political elite and not the people. Workers were denied self-determination, denied political power, denied control over the means of production, and faced violence for not complying with the Ruling Class; all hallmarks of the Far Right.

The revolution was not simple but the seating chart was very simple.

That’s putting so many things on one axis

It puts very little on one axis. No kings or Kings. Originally that was literally a question of how people wanted the French revolution to go.

The clear part is that a wealthy former Imperial senator used to polite consensus building believes those things.

He accomplished alot, having been in the fight from the beginning before there was a possibility of a rebel alliance. But he didn’t change with the times. And that’s ignoring anything outside of the Andor including his part in Rogue One.

I love Leftists Saw memes but there’s no way in any universe that Chewie was a Maoist

I’d say the mentality of .ml leads to the downvotes

I’d say Marxist-Leninists are the ones getting called Tankie way more than everyday Marxists.

where the working classes are in control of the state

If the working class were in control of the state they wouldn’t do Tankie shit or get called Tankies.

Also, because setting up a “Left Wing” country or society doesn’t mean people with a Right Wing outlook on life cease to exist. They have to candy coat their beliefs in the language of Leftism but that doesn’t make it leftism.

Left and Right are specifically about how people view power and authority. Nothing else. Left is no kings, Right is kings. Over time that got fleshed out and more nuanced but the point remains. Anarchists are the farthest Left you can go and Absolute Monarchs are the farthest Right you can go.