I’m not about to sympathize with these idiots now that they’re suffering just to have them screw everything up AGAIN if we’re fortunate enough to somehow claw out of this mess with SOMETHING like a civil society left. We didn’t get burned hard enough by that when these idiots all voted AGAIN for him in 2024? Having learned nothing?
She’s not a pitiable victim - she’s a dormant cancer waiting to ruin us again, and continues to be until she sufficiently convinces me otherwise. I don’t enjoy watching other people suffer, but she’s a threat… one of the millions of tiny knives that are tearing open the bleeding wound of the US. Her suffering doesn’t change that.
You very nicely said my reasons for not being overly concerned with their suffering. I know they’ll do it again in a heartbeat without realizing they’re the one’s causing the pain.
In-group behavior is a biologically evolved evolutionary survival mechanism, and is only appalling and destructive when when the out-group is an IMAGINED threat or a scapegoat.
When they’re ACTUALLY, OBJECTIVELY a dangerous problem, it’s a legitimate response.
Furthermore, the out-group here CHOOSES to be an out-group. Being a vile, self-serving imbecile is not a “can’t do anything about it”, meaningless biological differentiation. It’s a conscious choice that reflects character.
Uh huh… and are there any limits to your CLEARLY superior magnanimity?
Would you pity a Nazi? A member of the KKK? How about a member of ICE?
Because it seems to me right now your position is either “this isn’t big enough of a deal” or “there is NO level of heinous or dangerous ideology that is out of bounds”, and I reject both of those premises.
People warned them and they ignored it, since the warnings came from the side of the lady with the weird laugh who the gays and trans voted for. It’s unfortunate for them, but I’m not going to shed a tear for people who have helped orchestrate their own demise against all warnings.
Well the explanation would work for one election, 2024.
In 2016, he was a terrible choice on so many fronts, but no especially strong reason to expect he would dramatically shift inflation or pay. And on those specific metrics, his first term was mostly typical, except pandemic, which people can believe to be an utterly freak event beyond anyone’s control if they still wanted to vote for Trump.
The global economic shock continued and was exasperated by war. Biden had little to do with it, but it was on his watch, so he gets saddled with blame, so to the extent a voter just thinks about their personal economic situation, they vote for “not the current leadership”.
So this term has been marked by utterly predictable economic problems that everyone told them would happen, but they didn’t have first hand experience to trust that, and Trump’s rhetoric resonated with the “I know smart people say it doesn’t work, but ‘common sense’ tells me get rid of immigrants and tariff all imports and things will be great, making American jobs and getting rid of foreigners taking the jobs”.
So now they get to see first hand why those common sense thoughts don’t actually work.
Still. I predict next year they’ll roll back tariffs to try to create a bit of deflation and also cut checks to everyone to make them feel like winners in the moment as they decide midterms.
Yeah, who ever could have seen the current situation coming, except all the people who were screaming that trump was going to make material conditions objectively worse when he was elected.
Just like he did last time.
Can’t really feel much sympathy for the ‘fell for it again’ gold medal winners. We knew this was going to be the result, but voting for a black woman was a step to far.
Sorry if that was a mistaken assumption, I’m just sick of “lefties” already running republican apologetics just because Leopard Eating Peoples’ Faces party members are finally seeing the leopards turn on them.
“ThIs Is WhY yOu KeEp LoSiNg” said in response to not feeling sympathy for these people is step one
We’re all doing badly, but you expect people to feel sympathy when they have to face the consequences of their own actions? Fuck that, doubly so when they can’t admit this is partially on them for their vote.
Trump voters knew what they were voting for, or were too stupid/racist to see what everyone was telling they’ll would happen. They’re getting the economy they voted for, and the rest of us are being dragged along with them.
I understand not sympathizing with someone who has been diligently groomed, because we only see the resulting behavior, we don’t see the slow process of seduction. In her case, she was likely groomed by The Algorithm, which the current administration likely paid for.
We should all have solidarity with ordinary working class people who can’t make ends meet. Lots of them voted for Trump not because they’re right wing racist/sexist lunatics, but because the Democrats are that bad.
I’m not saying that we should let fake leftists off the hook for refusing to vote against Republicans in swing states, but we need to acknowledge that people understand their material interests and vote accordingly.
They vote for their material interests in the same sense that a man walking at night with sunglasses picks the best path. He thinks it’s obvious but he really needs to take the sunglasses off and maybe get a flashlight. He’s walking a stupid path and will probably fall into a ditch.
Fox News is probably the sunglasses in this metaphor.
The saddest part here is that nobody on Lemmy is sympathizing with here.
Three words are all it takes.
“I was wrong.”
I’m not about to sympathize with these idiots now that they’re suffering just to have them screw everything up AGAIN if we’re fortunate enough to somehow claw out of this mess with SOMETHING like a civil society left. We didn’t get burned hard enough by that when these idiots all voted AGAIN for him in 2024? Having learned nothing?
She’s not a pitiable victim - she’s a dormant cancer waiting to ruin us again, and continues to be until she sufficiently convinces me otherwise. I don’t enjoy watching other people suffer, but she’s a threat… one of the millions of tiny knives that are tearing open the bleeding wound of the US. Her suffering doesn’t change that.
You very nicely said my reasons for not being overly concerned with their suffering. I know they’ll do it again in a heartbeat without realizing they’re the one’s causing the pain.
Behold, in-group behavior
In-group behavior is a biologically evolved evolutionary survival mechanism, and is only appalling and destructive when when the out-group is an IMAGINED threat or a scapegoat.
When they’re ACTUALLY, OBJECTIVELY a dangerous problem, it’s a legitimate response.
Furthermore, the out-group here CHOOSES to be an out-group. Being a vile, self-serving imbecile is not a “can’t do anything about it”, meaningless biological differentiation. It’s a conscious choice that reflects character.
The most non-Maga maga style comment I’ve ever seen
Uh huh… and are there any limits to your CLEARLY superior magnanimity?
Would you pity a Nazi? A member of the KKK? How about a member of ICE?
Because it seems to me right now your position is either “this isn’t big enough of a deal” or “there is NO level of heinous or dangerous ideology that is out of bounds”, and I reject both of those premises.
I’d rather feel bad for people who have to deal with this shit who didn’t vote for the fat pedo
These are mostly just ordinary working people who voted for him, not traitor lunatics.
They also had ten years to figure it out…
They are voting according to their material interests. What is there to figure out?
They voted directly against their material interests, as is evidenced by every single post in this com.
And that info wasn’t hidden, as the entire campaign was policy that would obviously raise costs,
If you believe the working class is too stupid to understand its own interests and deserves what it gets, you are not a leftist.
Then you have not been paying attention. The propaganda is relentless.
People warned them and they ignored it, since the warnings came from the side of the lady with the weird laugh who the gays and trans voted for. It’s unfortunate for them, but I’m not going to shed a tear for people who have helped orchestrate their own demise against all warnings.
That doesn’t include you?
In what way exactly are they voting in their best interests, he ran three times on racism
Voting for rich guy will make me rich?? This is a myth. Rich ppl don’t get rich by giving money to others.
Well the explanation would work for one election, 2024.
In 2016, he was a terrible choice on so many fronts, but no especially strong reason to expect he would dramatically shift inflation or pay. And on those specific metrics, his first term was mostly typical, except pandemic, which people can believe to be an utterly freak event beyond anyone’s control if they still wanted to vote for Trump.
The global economic shock continued and was exasperated by war. Biden had little to do with it, but it was on his watch, so he gets saddled with blame, so to the extent a voter just thinks about their personal economic situation, they vote for “not the current leadership”.
So this term has been marked by utterly predictable economic problems that everyone told them would happen, but they didn’t have first hand experience to trust that, and Trump’s rhetoric resonated with the “I know smart people say it doesn’t work, but ‘common sense’ tells me get rid of immigrants and tariff all imports and things will be great, making American jobs and getting rid of foreigners taking the jobs”.
So now they get to see first hand why those common sense thoughts don’t actually work.
Still. I predict next year they’ll roll back tariffs to try to create a bit of deflation and also cut checks to everyone to make them feel like winners in the moment as they decide midterms.
Yeah, who ever could have seen the current situation coming, except all the people who were screaming that trump was going to make material conditions objectively worse when he was elected.
Just like he did last time.
Can’t really feel much sympathy for the ‘fell for it again’ gold medal winners. We knew this was going to be the result, but voting for a black woman was a step to far.
You mean dumbasses?
dumbass *traitors
Fake leftists who hate the working class? Yes I do.
And that’s how you keep losing in politics
Because the left refuses to coddle the right as the children they constantly act like?
Yeah, make it as if I’m attacking all the left
Sorry if that was a mistaken assumption, I’m just sick of “lefties” already running republican apologetics just because Leopard Eating Peoples’ Faces party members are finally seeing the leopards turn on them.
“ThIs Is WhY yOu KeEp LoSiNg” said in response to not feeling sympathy for these people is step one
One party is rounding up immigrants without due process and you want me to feel sympathy for their racist voters for getting their face eaten?
We’re all doing badly, but you expect people to feel sympathy when they have to face the consequences of their own actions? Fuck that, doubly so when they can’t admit this is partially on them for their vote.
Trump voters knew what they were voting for, or were too stupid/racist to see what everyone was telling they’ll would happen. They’re getting the economy they voted for, and the rest of us are being dragged along with them.
I understand not sympathizing with someone who has been diligently groomed, because we only see the resulting behavior, we don’t see the slow process of seduction. In her case, she was likely groomed by The Algorithm, which the current administration likely paid for.
We should all have solidarity with ordinary working class people who can’t make ends meet. Lots of them voted for Trump not because they’re right wing racist/sexist lunatics, but because the Democrats are that bad.
I’m not saying that we should let fake leftists off the hook for refusing to vote against Republicans in swing states, but we need to acknowledge that people understand their material interests and vote accordingly.
They vote for their material interests in the same sense that a man walking at night with sunglasses picks the best path. He thinks it’s obvious but he really needs to take the sunglasses off and maybe get a flashlight. He’s walking a stupid path and will probably fall into a ditch.
Fox News is probably the sunglasses in this metaphor.