You don’t know shit about what I know and don’t know.
I’ve read up enough on the Irgun, Palmach, Haganah, Herzl, Jabotinsky, and Ben-Gurion (among others) to know what I need to, thank you very much.
Not to mention that all the shit that was stolen from my family by Zionists.
It’s not really that complicated.
The “over 2000 years ago” or whatever previous maybe exigent state of Israel has nothing to do with the current one, other than as a religious fig leaf and excuse for Zionism. To quote Ilan Pape: “Most Zionists don’t believe that God exists but they do believe that he promised them Palestine”
You’re the one that brought up WW2 as a time period in the first place. Only to discard the evidence I presented of yes, in fact Zionists (who ended up forming Israel, and Zionism continues to be the basis of Israeli society and politics) were already committing what would/could/should be considered terrorist attacks against Palestinians.
As long as Zionism/Zionists have existed in Palestine, they have existed to displace or kill all Palestinians.
I draw the line at the most logical place: Zionism’s creation/popularization. It is the root cause of all this.
Not important to current events? Explain to me how groups that were merged together to form the IDF, and were fighting to create Israel is unimportant to Israel and its current actions and existence.
From the very beginning of Zionist migration to Palestine (the historic region, whether it was under Ottoman rule or British rule), it was colonial, and intended to remove the people currently living there. You can read it from Theodore Herzl, and Ze’ev Jabotinsky. Some of the first and very prominent Zionists. David Ben-Gurion,the first prime minister of Israel himself, in a letter to his son basically said the partition plan was just the first step to taking the entire land.
Without that ideology and attitude, we wouldn’t be where we are now.
I have. Enough to know that Zionism, and Zionist militias pre-date Israel, were folded together to create the IDF, and were doing fucked up shit then, and continue to do so now. Maybe you should study some history yourself.
Apparently he went on his first date with his now wife to the grave of Baruch Goldstein, a mass murderer and terrorist. He also had/has a picture/portrait of Goldstein in his living room.
It was “only” displacement, colonization, and (smaller) ethnic cleansing at that time
Edit: here’s a list of bombings by the Irgun, a Zionist militia and terrorist organization (who were eventually folded into the IDF) during (and after) WW2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks
Hopefully you mean several decades, or even 100+ years. Nothing they’ve been doing now is particularly new to them. Maybe just a larger, louder magnitude.
I’m sure it’s both, considering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_al-Jalaa_building (no one died, but destroyed major journalist offices) and history didn’t start on October 7th. That, and the sheer numbers from 2023.
I never claimed to know what you know.
I just hoped that if you did know more, you’d be horrified by a lot more than just “the last several years”. That’s all I meant with my first comment. And since you claim to know so much, I’m disappointed that you’re not.
If I’m so wrong in my knowledge, then please, go ahead and correct me. I’m open to being wrong and corrected, but you’ve pointed out nothing where I am in fact wrong.
Because in my understanding, it is factual that Zionist militias were operating in the 1920s (100+ years ago!), 1930s (most of the action was after the Arab Revolt in 1936), and 1940s until the state of Israel was formed, after which they were dissolved and mixed into the IDF. I haven’t made claims beyond that in this thread.