curbstickle
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curbstickle@anarchist.nexusto
Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Liberals and discovering morality when their enemies do bad things, name a better duoEnglish
23·2 days ago- I’d call the ACA a huge improvement. Still sucks, but far and above better than what was there before.
- Repealed dont ask, dont tell.
- Public endorsement of same sex marriage that had a clear impact on federal policies.
- The creation of the CFPB.
- Reopening embassies with Cuba and working to restore relations with Cuba.
- Numerous clean energy initiatives.
- DACA.
Now in my opinion none of these go far enough, but I’d be lying to not call them a positive step.
Do you want me to also list what I hate about the Obama admin? May as well. I’ll skip my criticisms of the above since ive already kind of noted that. As well as the drone strikes, which ive already commented on.
- Ending the ban on oil/gas drilling
- The priority enforcement program being launched and the expansion of state surveillance.
- renewal of the patriot act (and expansion of state surveillance)
- The handling of Iraq.
- Authorization of CIA/Pentagon programs to intervene in other countries.
- Abstention from UN resolutions on Israeli “settlers” (ugh). Technically his admin, but let’s be candid, thats a directive from above
- Arms deals with Saudi Arabia (later pulled, but I have a problem with the attempt)
Thats off the top. Out of curiosity, do you think I have an overall positive or negative view of his presidency?
curbstickle@anarchist.nexusto
Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Liberals and discovering morality when their enemies do bad things, name a better duoEnglish
65·2 days agoYou would think such horrible acts of inhumanity would earn him a reputation as a murderer among the general public
If the media portrayed things accurately, I would say many more would consider him a murderer (as they should).
But pretending people didn’t react negatively is the same sort of lie as the media portrayals of the strikes at the time. I’m not going to agree with mid/disinformation of any form.
yet he’s hailed as being “one of the good ones”
I think the bigger part of that is if you compare him to the past 45 years of presidents, what do you have?
- Reagan
- Bush
- Clinton
- Bush Jr
- Trump
- Biden
Calling him one of the better presidents of nearly a half of a century is not a stretch. Its just a painfully low bar.
never amounted into any meaningful criticism or consequences for Obama.
Refer back to the previous list. None of them had any meaningful consequences for the horrors they are responsible for.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexusto
Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Liberals and discovering morality when their enemies do bad things, name a better duoEnglish
56·2 days agoIt’s just so… Unhelpful.
This is my biggest complaint about posts like these. Not only wrong, but completely unhelpful.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexusto
Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Liberals and discovering morality when their enemies do bad things, name a better duoEnglish
65·2 days agoIt really would not take long for you to look this up, there absolutely was a negative response. Drone strikes were one of the higher up complaints.
Obama sticker on the cash register that said “miss me?”
See the second paragraph.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexusto
Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Liberals and discovering morality when their enemies do bad things, name a better duoEnglish
163·2 days agoNah, I downvoted too. Liberals weren’t happy about it then either, and just because they’d rather have an Obama than a Trump doesnt mean they were OK with everything Obama did.
Acting like a single issue (that people absolutely were upset about, and resulted in lawsuits, hearings, etc) suddenly means they should be OK with Trump doing it, or getting revisionist and pretending people were celebrating these strikes at the time because Obama did it, that’s kind of ridiculous to me.
All Treo for me, the sidekick was tempting but I was on VZW at the time