I do mean stuff like removed scenes from international airings, replacing objects like cigarettes or vine with any other objects.

  • OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    When Sailor Moon was airing on American TV back in the late 90’s, they completely censored out every aspect of romantic relationship between Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus. Turned them into cousins.

    It was a shock to me when I bought the subtitled version and they were suddenly lesbians.

    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      When I was a teenager, I bought a DVD that had a few Sailor Moon episodes that I had never seen before (being from the U.S.) In these episodes, Makoto (or “Lita” AKA Sailor Jupiter) develops a crush on Haruka (or “Amara” AKA Sailor Uranus) and has to cope with her being unattainable. The DVD included both an English dub and the original Japanese with English subtitles.

      In the original Japanese version, the crush is treated as romantic in nature, with Makoto’s friends telling her that Haruka already has “a girlfriend” (Michiru AKA “Michelle” AKA Sailor Neptune.) In the English dub, Makoto wants Haruka to be her “best friend,” with the rest of the Sailor Scouts telling her that Haruka already has “a best friend.”

      The visuals all stay the same, complete with roses and Makoto’s starry love-eyes. The romantic implications are so obvious it’s painful.

    • Mothra@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      Out of curiosity, (if you’d like to share), how old were you when you found out and how did you take it? Were you on board with it or did it feel weird?

      • flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        ::: I spoiler tagged this long ass post in order to hide it from folks who don’t care.

        I’m not that person but I had the exact same thing happen to me! And let me tell you, when I was first watching it as a middle schooler, I knew they were in love! I didn’t know that women-who-like-women had a word (lesbian), so I thought, “Well, if you’re in love with someone, they’re probably your friend. Probably your best friend, so that makes sense. But you can’t just call them your girlfriend, because-”

        I grew up in rural Oklahoma (and now live in Tennessee). A woman, who has a friend, and that friend is a woman, makes her a girlfriend. I still call women who are my friends, ‘girlfriends,’ even though it obviously could mean something romantic. So Uranus and Neptune probably couldn’t just say ‘girlfriend,’ because all the girls who were their friends were their girlfriends, so ‘best’ friend is probably a friend who is such a good friend, that you’re also in love with them. (This was the logic of a sixth grader.)

        It’s one of the reasons that Sailor Moon fans have always been so inclusive, have always stood up for other presentations or orientations. Why on earth would we support people trying to hide this stuff from children, when a not-so-small number of us knew what we were looking at when we were children?

        To add to that, I might have had a very unique interpretation of the situation, because I would later learn that I was a demi bisexual (we didn’t even have the word ‘demisexual’ when I was a girl) and what that means is… For me, I usually only want a relationship with the person who is such my best friend, that I also am in love with them!

        :::

    • AliSaket@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      lol yeah. They didn’t edit out all the flirting though or all the embarassed or indignant reactions by the characters around them, which presents those “cousins” in a really interesting light ;)

      The US version of Sailor Moon was also censored and edited in different other ways. IIRC:

      • All Tokyo references were changed to New York. So they’ve changed where the whole thing took place.
      • They changed all Japanese writings (Hiragana, Katakana, Kanji)
      • Multiple characters had their gender or sex changed as to avoid homosexual relations.
      • The music was completely changed for some reason
      • They took out many scenes or even whole episodes if they thought, they might vaguely get into conflict with the FCC.
      • They scrapped a whole season, because the Sailor Starlights (I think that was their name?) changed gender in their magical transformation.
      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        I believe there was also a scene in Sailor Moon where a character was in the bath. In order to make the water opaque the censors decided that red would be the best colour to use, so it looks like she’s bathing in blood.