You must log in or # to comment.
It’s not “remarkably safe”.
I think by “remarkably safe” he meant “appealingly harmful”. It’s understandable, I mix those up all the time.
… Then again maybe the purpose of making the meme like that is provoke exactly this kind of comment.
Lmao. I think Monsanto is pouring money into Lemmy because holy shit there are some brown noses bootlickers defending daddy Monsanto.
Monsanto sold to Bayer to avoid public scrutiny, don’t forget your healthy does of Bayer disparagement.
Didn’t bayer recently sell to another company? I seem to recall a neighbor who is retired from them telling me he can’t shop at the bayer store anymore.
Relevant Veritasium: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxVXvFOPIyQ
They literally just retracted the 2000s paper saying it doesn’t cause cancer because it was found out Monsanto funded the researchers and got to approve and remove sections.
This meme is rubbish and belongs in the trash.
All roadsl lead to Rome, and all chemical deregulation leads to Monsanto.
You mean Bayer.
I don’t think I’ve seen a study claiming adverse health effects when glyphosate is used according to Monsanto’s guidelines.
Issue is is that deviation from it, e.g. using it in too high concentrations, does seem harmful. And it seems that it’s quite easy to mess this up for farmers, making it a risky product.
It you haven’t seen them you need to start looking because it’s not even that hard.
Its not dose, its the conditions for making it. The temperature when producing it needs to be super accurate. Even being off by a couple degress will fuck the whole thing up.
That’s 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T, not glyphosate. Entirely different compounds. Did you watch the video? It even shows that the cancer risks in mice occurred when they were exposed to much higher levels of roundup than the guidelines recommend.
Glyphosate can be dangerous when misused, and Monsanto sucks as a company for downplaying and suppressing these risks. But as far as I am aware, there’s no study showing an increased cancer risk when used at the recommended dosage. Feel free to cite a study stating otherwise though!
Ok, and what about the rest of the research? https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2018ScTEn.616..255V/abstract
Its safe when made in VERY VERY VERY specific conditions. Specifically temperature. If its off by even a couple degrees it will create another compound that is deadly. That is why it is unsafe, because its is too easy to fuck up. Its why when researchers tested, it was fine. Cause they were following the instructions to a t, and could reliably replicate the conditions.
This video covers it. The first half is about the pesticide, the rest is about why farmers can’t plant their own seeds.
Non video link? I wasn’t able to find anything that sounded relevant by searching.
In general chemical synthesis is indeed dependent on conditions…
You you’re literally voluntarily choosing ignorance.
Sorry I value my time
Who needs insects anyway?
No, it’s actually remarkably safe
[(credible) citation needed]
Well we should regulate or subsidise pesticide free agriculture.
But right now we can’t feed everyone without it.
Well we still can’t feed everyone in the whole world because we don’t want to, but then we really don’t have enough food
Indoor clean farms are pesticide free. Currently only economical for some crops, of course, but likely a good option in the long run for sustainable food production in general without using up all our land.
