I’m going to use three examples.
- Reddit, High Moderation the absolute worst: I’ve seen many people including myself get wrongfully banned from that website, It has the strongest moderation possible that feels a bit authoritarian. It tracks your device with an ID and your IP albeit for 100 days. I’ve seen people getting banned because they were protesting against “ICE” as “Violence” I’ve known people getting banned on r/suicidewatch because when someone reports you on Reddit sometimes there’s a bot saying “Hey, we are here for you” which is again crazy ironic that they don’t have a team handling these sort of issues, not that it’s their job to do so but due to Reddit’s aggression with Bots and Filters it feels like hell.
I posted a NSFW themed meme on an NSFW community and within seconds the post was removed due to Reddit’s filters leading with a permanent ban, What are Reddit’s filters and what classifies as a “filter” who knows. I sent an appeal saying that my alt got banned wrongly (same email) but I know that they won’t bother to check. Leaving someone with no choice other to start clean again which is against their rules as a Ban Evasion however I still believe it was a wrong decision so I’m worthy of another chance.
You can argue after Reddit’s controversies with r/the_donald and a subreddit where there were people literally dying on camera, Reddit enforced harsher rules which is understandable, but what they still don’t understand is that in case there’s a mistake you need to have better ways of communicating with an actual person, the appeal message is 250 Characters long and that’s it. There are literal Nazis there who haven’t been banned but I did just because of a meme.
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Lemmy, The Perfect Middle Ground: This website pretty much is in line with what I believe, that there should be moderation but without any stupid filters, karma requirements and power tripping mods, Is it because it’s a much smaller community than reddit? Maybe. Will the rules ever change if Lemmy gets much more popular, Who knows?
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4Chan. The wild west: Almost to zero moderation, which to me is a bad thing because there will be people who will abuse that system and post illegal stuff and be borderline mental, I don’t think I need to say more about that website.
To be fair there’s still moderation, for example after the GamerGate drama posts on /v/ about specific people or e-celebrities is prohibited.
None: content curation via opt-in filters is better.
Moderation lacks control, is inflexible, & is contrary to the free flow of information the internet stands for. We shouldn’t admire some self-appointed, paternalistic authority arbitrarily deciding the information we’re entitled to get.
That’s very nice until people start posting csam and the hoster is being held responsible for spreading it.
its been illegal for all forums/sites. the reason csam gets through to some sites, is if there is no moderation at all, or the site is extremely obscure, and the csam is buried under profiles of profiles of users. one was shut down '16 not because of the csam/beastility(localiazed to specific users), but because it wasnt paying the bills.
The person I replied to was advocating no moderation at all though, even though they seem to be backpaddling in another reply.
You guys always confuse legal compliance with legally unnecessary moderation. OP didn’t make this mistake. Did you know laws existed before moderated social media blew up & the internet had to follow them? Even 4chan.
We don’t need legally unnecessary moderation. Alternatives are viable.
You literally said “None”, no moderation at all means also no moderation for legal compliance.
It’s pretty normal to call the extra bullshit on top of legal compliance that isn’t strictly necessary moderation. They didn’t call the removal of illegal content before moderation, they just called it following the goddamn law. To imagine that illegality was seriously suggested is special.
The most extreme one that op suggested was 4chan. You’re the only one who suggested no moderation at all.