They said it doesn’t work because people who don’t work would receive the same amount of money as people who do. My view says they deleted it themselves.
And they were right. That’s why it’s called universal basic income, everyone gets the same amount (well, probably adjusted based on cost of living, but ideally the same). What they’re implying is not correct, that everyone will get an amount that they’ll be happy with. Those that work and get UBI will be both comfortable and secure if things go wrong. Those who can’t or don’t want to work (maybe for a period of time, maybe they’re just done with working) will have enough to “basically” survive. No one is getting rich off UBI, but everyone will be better off that isn’t now.
The real important thing that UBI can bring is making companies have to do more to convince people to work for them. Get rid of health insurance tied to the workplace (like with single payer) and then they have to offer real benefits and good working conditions. They’ll fight it screaming and kicking too, they like how workers have to play their game and take what they’re willing to give, not the other way around.
Sorry for the long diatribe. I guess I have strong feelings about it.
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I mean thats kind of a good thing? And it’s right in the name? Universal Basic
UBI should be enough to comfortably survive - at least enough to cover food and shelter (with associated costs ie electricity/water/heat)
Working a job while on UBI would pay for enrichment type stuff - vacations night at the movies etc.
As it is now working doesn’t guarantee any of the 1st category that UBI should/would cover never mind the 2nd.
Yeah I’d agree with what you’ve said.
This is false
Wish I knew what was said. Hoping the person just decided to delete it and it wasnt removed by a mod.
They said it doesn’t work because people who don’t work would receive the same amount of money as people who do. My view says they deleted it themselves.
And they were right. That’s why it’s called universal basic income, everyone gets the same amount (well, probably adjusted based on cost of living, but ideally the same). What they’re implying is not correct, that everyone will get an amount that they’ll be happy with. Those that work and get UBI will be both comfortable and secure if things go wrong. Those who can’t or don’t want to work (maybe for a period of time, maybe they’re just done with working) will have enough to “basically” survive. No one is getting rich off UBI, but everyone will be better off that isn’t now.
The real important thing that UBI can bring is making companies have to do more to convince people to work for them. Get rid of health insurance tied to the workplace (like with single payer) and then they have to offer real benefits and good working conditions. They’ll fight it screaming and kicking too, they like how workers have to play their game and take what they’re willing to give, not the other way around.
Sorry for the long diatribe. I guess I have strong feelings about it.
This is what I value most about UBI – the leverage on workers; the flexibility to take time to rest and explore other, more fulfilling careers.
My wording was not correct for what I meant say. Everyone might get the same, but people who work would have MORE money than people don’t.
No need to apologize, I asked because I was looking for passionate answers