Hello, Im kind of new here and trying to get used to Lemmy and I was wondering about if this is true since I am considering donating on this site to support alternative projects but wanted to hear other users before doing so. That being said, what have been your experiences?

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    Did you downvote your own post?! The scores are +0-1 when I’m seeing it (and the-1 isn’t me).

    Considering there was a 17 hours gap, it’s quite possible that someone had the time to read and downvote it before you saw it.
    And I get it, there are quite a few people who don’t like people that don’t perform fake values.


    One of the depictions of unreasonable trans people was a video that came up in the beginning of the this trend of trans people coming out + a lot of people getting medical treatments related to their gender identity.
    It was some tall, brown coloured, athletically muscular “man” (because he looked mostly like a man, apart from the lipstick, which might as well have been just a man wearing lipstick, to those around him) loudly complaining about something in a restaurant, while the staff tried to de-escalate. One of the staff members then calls him (her?) “Sir”, to which (s)he then became melodramatic. Although the chap didn’t end up telling others what (s)he wanted to be called, until the very end of the video.

    Now, it might have been someone with a genuine problem, that was just not captured in the video, but could also have been someone just trying to gather hatred towards a community that hadn’t even been formed yet.


    But of course, I have had a depiction of trans(-ish?) people long before the trend started on the US internet. It is of groups of people (called “ladyboys” by English reporters, but there has been a colloquial term) who are often hermaphrodites, but could also be eunuchs.
    The story about them I was told as a child, was that they come in groups during marriages, asking for exorbitant (but somewhat payable) amounts of money and ‘make a scene’ if not paid. The scene they make would be stuff like public nudity, with obscene looking displays, or going around cursing people (which some person told me that they actually work).

    To me, that looked like just some begging+harassment ring. Add to that, an anecdote of one my relatives having been casually molested in public as a child by them, made me think pretty lowly of them.

    Those groups seem to have died down now (I think?), which maybe partially because the Government officially recognised the third gender (quite a while ago actually, since I see it in govt. forms) and apart from them getting access to education (the Govt. funded kind, meant for poor people, because if one is rich, being in a minority is just a minor inconvenience as far as “means” go), also getting some reservation quota for certain menial jobs, if they were to not find work normally.


    And then there was the depiction of a hermaphrodite in the pretty popular cartoon (anime) “Kochikame”, which made me think that Japan had been ahead in this kind of thing, as the depicted person was normally working as an officer.

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      Did you downvote your own post?! The scores are +0-1 when I’m seeing it (and the-1 isn’t me).

      Considering there was a 17 hours gap, it’s quite possible that someone had the time to read and downvote it before you saw it.

      Yeah, but on my instance, anything you post automatically has a +1 from yourself, which you must have removed.

      Your takes on trans people and intersex people seem to all be from concern trolling media and third hand stories. Trans people are like witches that hand out curses that cause harm? I think your skepticism alarm should be going off.

      For the record, molesting children is absolutely not OK under any circumstances. I forget what the statistics are, but I remember that the number of incidents of trans people being sex offenders is far lower than you would expect from the prevalence of trans people and of sex offending in the general population.

      It seems to me that you were fed a lot of negative stereotypes of trans and intersex people when you were young, and I worry that you are interpreting finding the lack of evidence of any of this in the real world now that you are older as a change in the world when it might be wiser to take it as evidence that the negative stereotypes were always sensational, overblown and inaccurate.

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        Trans people are like witches that hand out curses that cause harm? I think your skepticism alarm should be going off.

        When I said that - some person told me that they actually work - I didn’t mean to say that I believed that part.

        Although I understand that I didn’t mention that multiple times in capital words (because I didn’t feel the need to), just because some of the poor trans people banded with some poor eunuchs to make a cult, of which I have a bad impression, that doesn’t mean, I have said impression for trans people all over the world.
        I was mostly just giving a list of past events, and they most definitely don’t tell my current thoughts, which I feel, the last 2 paragraphs should have explained well enough.


        I have once even gone pretty far into explaining how important I consider, not to have prejudice, which even got quite a bit of backlash and a ban from a community. So I am not going to put the effort into reiterating it over here.

        But of course, anyone may feel free to label me as anti-trans or whatever anyone may feel like and I may feel free to consider them an unreasonable person.

        Yeah, but on my instance, anything you post automatically has a +1 from yourself, which you must have removed.

        I didn’t downvote my post, I just un-upvoted it. It is possible to downvote it and that would give me a -1 from myself.

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            10 hours ago

            I started that mainly because it felt weird that a comment I wrote, had a blue up, when I didn’t do it.
            Now I consider upvoting something as a way to emphasise the post/comment and not upvoting all my comments makes me show a point when I do upvote something that I wrote.
            It is really just for myself though, as a single upvote doesn’t really matter and others are not really seeing if I am the one that has upvoted it. You can call it a compulsion, I suppose.