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  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    21 hours ago

    But you’ve got people who are normally in the auth-left quadrant in the lib-left one. This confuses me.

    • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlOP
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      21 hours ago

      Authority means different things, depending on the context. Frankly the original political compass made absolutely no sense in how it defined things, hence having an entire quadrant for ancap make-believe.

      In this, positive Y axis corresponds with using authority in favor of bourgeois interests, negative Y axis corresponds with using authority in opposition to bourgeois interests.

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        11 hours ago

        Well your labels are inaccurate in that case. And those axes are not particularly independent from one another.

        While I personally agree that the traditional political compass is a flawed and subjective view of the diversity of political views, it does a fairly good job of quantifying some differences that exist within the left and right that often confuse people otherwise. And it does seem to adequately categorize the vast majority of people in the west, even if imperfectly. So I don’t really get all the hate.

        • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlOP
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          3 hours ago

          I should hope they’re not independent, it’s the same axis.

          The x axis is reform vs revolution, this is independent from the question of who directs the authority, which is the y axis.

          the original political compass allows for people, who are in favor of a dictatorship of capital and are opposed to changing it, to portray themselves as various degrees of ‘libertarian’ or even ‘left’. They are anything but in my opinion.

          I don’t think authority can be separated from context of political economy, as it is in the original one. If anything splitting those up like they’re independent variables is muddying the waters.

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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        20 hours ago

        the main problem with the political compass is it was created by and for authoritarian capitalists to normalize the lie that as people grow older they get more conservative. there’s far more axes than just two