It also suffers from ridiculous moderation. Get into an argument with a mods alt and youll have all your comments from a whole instance removed and banned outright
This true? Hasn’t been my experience.
Seemed like quite a few comments bashing Lemmy or suggesting that there is no alternative.
It also suffers from ridiculous moderation.
This is like complaining about the heat in Arizona whilst living in Saudi Arabia
Right? The entire point of the fediverse is more moderation, if someone wants to force others to listen to their speech they can join an instance with no rules or go to X.com.
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Lemmy.ml being a forced default option (because the devs are tankie authoritarian pieces of shit) gives lemmy as a whole a bad reputation. The entire fediverse needs to defederate from .ml and call it a day.
Honestly, I appreciate that they do not attempt to manipulate the lemmyverse in a way that pushes their agenda. Let them have a default. It’s fine.
People should come into Lemmy with the understanding that it is all about multiple instances and choosing the best one for you. I don’t like who Reddit is run by, but I can do nothing about it from within their ecosystem. Lemmy is built in a way that you can avoid supporting people you don’t want to.
Though the fact they mix pleasure with business. Is a legitimate issue. Tying funding to their political fiefdom rightfully turns many off. Thankfully there are better options these days and no real reason to recommend Lemmy to anyone.
That’s the problem, they do manipulate it. There was a thread a while back that showed how ml basically shows up as one of the random instances to join, like 95% of the time. So it’s not actually random.
Yeah, I get this, but this is minor to me.
This is partly the responsibility of us Lemmy users to make sure it is known which instance to use. If we are letting the newbies go with a random instance, it’s probably not going to work out overall.
Not everyone is going to be informed about everything, they’re joining because they hear it’s good or don’t join because they hear it’s filled with authoritarian tankies. An instance shouldn’t be anything more than a place to have a login and join the fediverse, it shouldn’t be an echo chamber of authoritarian quackery.
It depends on the com, I got banned from one of the open source coms for calling an obvious alt an obvious alt.
Which community was that?
It was in a comment about one of the many dramas that Hector Marcan’s vtuber alt was involved in, that’s all I remember.
It was some months ago, it sounds silly but it annoyed me enough that I stopped posting on lemmy for a while. You can probably find it in the mod log.
Lemmy.ml tend to be power trippy
!opensource@programming.dev is usually better
Thanks. I ended up unfollowing the .ml com, I already subscribed to the six or so other open source coms on various instances so it’s no great loss.
Honestly, this is what’s so great about Lemmy. If the Amins are the problem, there’s always another place to go.
Lemmy, once you get past the landing page that looks like it’s selling server storage, half the subs are devoted to things like Marxism.
))) The tankie reputation (even though it’s not justified at all) strikes again.
I think people just don’t want to make the move, and are making up excuses to stay where they are. I see a lot of that in that thread.
Obviously anyone serious about finding an alternative would be here or on Discuit/Tildes.
I have seen some users on that sub complain in every single thread that there is no alternative for the last two years and a half. Really makes you question how much they actually want to leave.
True. Comments saying “build your own application” were more popular than comments suggesting Lemmy.
Even if you wanted to “build your own Reddit” you’d be better off starting with Lemmy source code anyway.
Also possible that Reddit buries the Lemmy posts. You can’t see the up/downvote counts. After all.
About once a week there’s a post saying “Hi, I built a new reddit alternative!” there
And it’s usually just utter rubbish. Like yes, it works but it’s barebones and basics. What is it they are expecting?
Even if you don’t want to participate in the Lemmy, just steal the source code and rebrand it and use that as a starting point.
That’s basically what Truth Social did with Mastadon.
https://clubsall.com/ tried to use Threadiverse content without federating back.
Seems like the project died, which is a shame because their frontend was cool
The people who want to leave, did. The only ones still there have dug in their heels.
I always point to Piefed nowadays
My first server was hexbear (it was advertised as broadly leftist), seeing Stalin thirstposts on the timeline was pretty jaring
Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml attract the most users but their (lack of) meaningful moderation really helps prevent users from staying, imo. Most users don’t understand that joining a smaller instance is often a better experience. And why would they stick around the Fediverse if their experience is worse than that of Reddit?
To be honest, I would say moderation problems are between LW and ML are comparable.
I would even argue there isn’t any instance-spexific issue with LW for new users.
(Hexbear) They’re also widely defederated and ban people for differing political viewpoints.
Meanwhile .world bans you for saying “from the river to the sea”.
We usually have fascists brigading out website so there ain’t much choice. Leftists are welcome as long as they don’t spam fascist talking points.
