Agreed, Democratic leadership’s stance on Israel was/is out of step with the majority of the base. Also, that does not make them fascist, as you implied.

I don’t know how to make this simpler. The two major parties in our country are different. Republicans are much worse than Democrats. Your life and the lives of those you care about will be worse if you vote for Republicans, third party, or don’t vote. These are indisputable facts, and it is frustrating that so many people who should understand them do not.

This is a good example of the type of (nominally leftist) person who is essentially unpersuadable. How are you supposed to convince these guys to vote when they don’t see a meaningful difference between MAGA and normie Democrats? They don’t live in reality.

Let me also say, you are right that blaming specific groups of voters is not a good campaign strategy. I’m not suggesting we go knock on doors and berate people who identify as leftist but refuse to vote for Democrats. Of course it’s better to try and persuade them.

That being said, I can personally come to the conclusion that 2024 was in part their fault, and it does no harm to tell the truth on an obscure web forum that maybe 100 people will read.

It’s impossible for any party to appeal to a majority of voters on everything. If Democrats could have done something to be more appealing to greens than Stein was, then whatever that something was would have turned off some other segment of the coalition, possible losing net votes. Winning a national election requires broad appeal, and being the only viable non-fascist, pro-democracy ticket should have been reason enough for any decent person to vote for the Democratic candidate. I don’t know what these greens want, but not living in a Christo-fascist hellhole is apparently not a high priority for them. Fuck them to hell.

Wait, I thought they represented “less than 1% of the vote” and therefore don’t matter. But Democrats’ failure to pander to them cost them the election too? I’m confused.

She certainly tried to help get Trump elected. Just because she’s ineffective doesn’t make her not a piece of shit.

It’s called transubstantiation, and it has been scientifically proven to be real. We have already sequenced Christ’s DNA, and China is supposedly secretly trying to clone him as we speak. This decade is just going to keep getting weirder.

You’re thinking of the Republican base. No, they didn’t forget, and they like it.

Trump won the popular vote in 2024 due to large enough numbers of independent, politically-disengaged voters voting for economic change and forgetting just how racist and misogynistic the Republican Party is. This administration seems hell-bent on reminding them.

Another example is the huge swing Latinos made toward Trump last year, and, according to polling, they’re already noping the fuck out.

It’s real, and it’s spectacular